From Herbert Spencer 16 November 1872
37 Queen’s Gardens, | Bayswater, W.
Nov. 16th. 1872.
Dear Darwin,
I have delayed somewhat longer than I intended, acknowledging the copy of your new volume, which you have been kind enough to send me.1 I delayed partly in the hope of being able to read more of it before writing to you; but my reading powers are so small, and they are at present so much employed in getting up materials for work in hand, that I have been unable to get on far with it. I have, however, read quite enough to see what an immense mass of evidence you have brought to bear in proof of your propositions.
I will comment only on one point on which I see you differ from me; namely the explanation of musical expression, in respect of which you quote Mr. Litchfield.2 I think if you would trace up the genesis of melody, beginning with the cadences of slightly emotional speech and passing through recitative, you would see that melody is quite comprehensible on the principles I have pointed out. The fact that melody proper, has been evolved in comparatively recent times, is strong evidence of this. That recitative is a natural expression of emotion, is abundantly proved. I remember having read of Australians, who used a kind of recitative in talking to themselves when walking along about things that interested them; and I have heard children, when engaged in any play that interested them, or such occupations as gathering flowers, talk to themselves in recitative. Join this with the fact that many inferior races have never risen above recitative (as the Chinese and Hindoos) and that there is reason for believing that even among the Greeks, melody had not become so markedly different from recitative as now—add, too, the fact that even now in the Highlands you may hear Gaelic songs that retain very much of the recitative character; and I think you will see that melody is, as I have contended, an idealised form of the natural cadences of emotion.3 Indeed I could point out musical phrases which would, I think, clearly prove this to you. Ask your daughter to play to you “Robert toi que j’aime,” and you will I think see this.4 I do not mean to say that this is all; for there are other elements of effect in melody. But this is, I think, the cardinal element.
Very truly yours |
Footnotes
Bibliography
Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.
Expression: The expression of the emotions in man and animals. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1872.
Spencer, Herbert. 1858–74. Essays: scientific, political, and speculative. 3 vols. London: Longman, Brown, Green, Longmans, and Roberts; Williams & Norgate.
Summary
Thanks CD for Expression. Disagrees with his views on the genesis of melody; HS gives some reasons for believing it to originate in the natural cadences of emotional speech.
Letter details
- Letter no.
- DCP-LETT-8631
- From
- Herbert Spencer
- To
- Charles Robert Darwin
- Sent from
- Bayswater
- Source of text
- DAR 177: 231
- Physical description
- L 3pp inc
Please cite as
Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 8631,” accessed on 24 April 2024, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-8631.xml
Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 20