To Charles Lyell 8 October [1860]
15 Marine Parade | Eastbourne
Oct 8.
My Dear Lyell
I send the Translation of Bronn:1 the first part of Ch. with generalities & praise is not translated. There are some good hits. He makes an apparently, & in part truly, telling case against me, that I cannot explain why one Rat has longer tail & another longer ears &c. But he seems to muddle in assuming that these parts did not all vary together or one part so insensibly before the other as to be in fact contemporaneous.2 I might ask the Creationist whether he thinks these differences in the two Rats of any use, or as standing in some relation from laws of growth; & if he admits this, Selection might come into play. He who thinks that God created animals unlike for mere sport or variety, like man fashions his clothes will not admit any force in my argumentum ad hominem.—
Bronn blunders about my supposing several Glacial Periods,—whether or no such ever did occur. He blunders about my supposing that development goes on at same rate in all parts of world. I presume that he has misunderstood this from the supposed migration into all regions of the more dominant forms.—
I have ordered Dr. Bree & will lend it you, if you like, & if it turns out good.3
I have written to Down about the 2 missing Reviews.4
I do strongly believe in SE. & S.W. corners of Australia having been Islands; & the S.W corner the oldest & most typical. Hooker has speculated on this in his Introduction.—5 So has Jukes.6 (By the way capital answer by Jukes in Saturday’s Athenæum to Sir — James’ wild speculations on change of earth’s axis).7 So did I many long years ago in little Review in Annals & Mag. of N. History on Waterhouse’s Mammalia.—8
I am very glad that I misunderstood you about species not having the capacity to vary, though in fact few do give birth to new species. It seems that I am very apt to misunderstand you; I suppose I am always fancying objections.— Your case of Red Indian shows me that we agree entirely.—9
Miss L. says Bronn is very difficult German.—10
I had not heard of the Bovey Coal Plants.— I hope Bunbury will undertake them.11 Will Bunbury’s new position interfere much with his Science?12
Farewell | My dear Lyell | Ever yours | C. Darwin
I do not know who Bree is. I fancy he is son of old Revd. Bree, a good miscellaneous observer of habits of all creatures.—& Botanist.13 I had letter yesterday from Thwaites of Ceylon who was much opposed to me.14 He now says “I find that the more familiar one becomes to your views in connexion with the various phenomena of nature, the more they commend themselves to my mind”.—
Footnotes
Bibliography
Bree, Charles Robert. 1860. Species not transmutable, nor the result of secondary causes. Being a critical examination of Mr Darwin’s work entitled ‘Origin and variation of species’. London: Groombridge & Sons. Edinburgh: Maclachlan & Stewart.
Collected papers: The collected papers of Charles Darwin. Edited by Paul H. Barrett. 2 vols. Chicago and London: University of Chicago Press. 1977.
Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.
Desmond, Ray. 1994. Dictionary of British and Irish botanists and horticulturists including plant collectors, flower painters and garden designers. New edition, revised with the assistance of Christine Ellwood. London: Taylor & Francis and the Natural History Museum. Bristol, Pa.: Taylor & Francis.
Jukes, Joseph Beete. 1850. A sketch of the physical structure of Australia, so far as it is present known. London. [Vols. 7,8]
Origin: On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1859.
Waterhouse, George Robert. 1846–8. A natural history of the Mammalia. 2 vols. London: H. Baillière.
Summary
Encloses advertisement [for C. R. Bree, Species not transmutable (1860)].
Discusses Bronn’s chapter of criticisms.
Mentions variation in rats.
Has ordered book by Bree.
Discusses suggestion that southern corners of Australia may once have been islands.
Mentions "wild speculations" about change in earth’s axes.
CL’s ideas on variation.
Letter details
- Letter no.
- DCP-LETT-2942
- From
- Charles Robert Darwin
- To
- Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
- Sent from
- Eastbourne
- Source of text
- American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.232)
- Physical description
- ALS 6pp encl
Please cite as
Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 2942,” accessed on 26 September 2022, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-2942.xml
Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 8