To Charles Lyell 15 February [1866]1
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Thursday | Feb 15th
My dear Lyell
Many thanks for Hooker’s letter.2 It is a real pleasure to me to read his letters, they are alway written with such spirit. I quite agree that Agassiz could never mistake weathered-blocks & glacial action;3 though the mistake has, I know, been made in 2 or 3 quarters of the world. I have often fought with Hooker about the Physicists putting their veto on the world having been cooler; it seems to me as irrational, as if, when Geologists first brought forward some evidence of elevation & subsidence, a former Hooker had declared that this cd not possibly be admitted until Geologists cd explain what made the earth rise & fall.4 It seems that I erred greatly about some of the plants on the Organ Mts.,5 but I am very glad to hear about Fuchsia &c. I cannot make out what Hooker does believe, he seems to admit the former cooler climate, & almost in the same breath, to spurn the idea. To retort Hooker’s words “It is inexplicable to me” how he can compare the transport of seeds from the Andes to the Organs Mts. with that from a continent to an island: not to mention the much greater distance, there are no currents of water from one to the other, & what on earth shd make a bird fly that distance without resting many times.6 I do not at all suppose that nearly all tropical forms were exterminated during the cool period, but in somewhat depopulated areas, into which there cd be no migration, probably many closely allied species will have been formed since this period. Hooker’s paper in Nat. Hist. Rev. is well worth studying; but I cannot remember that he gives good grounds for his conviction that certain orders of plants cd not withstand a rather cooler climate, even if it came on most gradually.7 We have only just learnt under how cool a temperature several tropical Orchids can flourish.8 I clearly saw Hookers difficulty about the preservation of tropical forms during the cool period, & tried my best to retain one spot after another as a hot-house for their preservation; but it wd not hold good, & it was a mere piece of truckling on my part when I suggested that longitudinal belts of the world were cooled one after the other.9 I shall very much like to see Agassiz’ letter whenever you receive one.10
I have written a long letter; but a squabble with or about Hooker always does me a world of good, & we have been at it many a long year. I cannot quite understand whether he attacks me as a Wriggler or a Hammerer but I am very sure that a deal of wriggling has to be done.11
With many thanks | yours affectionately | Charles Darwin
Footnotes
Bibliography
Bateman, James. 1864. Guide to cool-orchid growing. London: Reeve & Co.
Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.
Desmond, Ray. 1999. Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker, traveller and plant collector. Woodbridge, Suffolk: Antique Collectors’ Club with the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew.
ML: More letters of Charles Darwin: a record of his work in a series of hitherto unpublished letters. Edited by Francis Darwin and Albert Charles Seward. 2 vols. London: John Murray. 1903.
OED: The Oxford English dictionary. Being a corrected re-issue with an introduction, supplement and bibliography of a new English dictionary. Edited by James A. H. Murray, et al. 12 vols. and supplement. Oxford: Clarendon Press. 1970. A supplement to the Oxford English dictionary. 4 vols. Edited by R. W. Burchfield. Oxford: Clarendon Press. 1972–86. The Oxford English dictionary. 2d edition. 20 vols. Prepared by J. A. Simpson and E. S. C. Weiner. Oxford: Clarendon Press. 1989. Oxford English dictionary additional series. 3 vols. Edited by John Simpson et al. Oxford: Clarendon Press. 1993–7.
Origin 4th ed.: On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life. 4th edition, with additions and corrections. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1866.
Origin: On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1859.
Thomson, William. 1865. The ‘Doctrine of uniformity’ in geology briefly refuted. [Read 18 December 1865.] Proceedings of the Royal Society of Edinburgh 5 (1866): 512–13.
Summary
Thanks CL for Hooker’s letter.
Discussion of Hooker’s views on glacial action and temperature with specific reference to S. America.
His squabbles with Hooker on transport of seeds via water currents,
temperate plants, and preservation of tropical plants during cooler period.
Expresses interest in seeing Agassiz’s letter.
Letter details
- Letter no.
- DCP-LETT-5007
- From
- Charles Robert Darwin
- To
- Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
- Sent from
- Down
- Source of text
- American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.313)
- Physical description
- LS(A) 6pp
Please cite as
Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 5007,” accessed on 21 November 2024, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-5007.xml
Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 14