To Charles Lyell 17 [February 1863]
Summary
Criticises Dana’s classification of man and his use of fore-limbs as a basis for systematic classification.
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | Charles Lyell, 1st baronet |
Date: | 17 [Feb 1863] |
Classmark: | American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.288) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-3993 |
To Charles Lyell 12–13 March [1863]
Summary
[On Antiquity of man] CD is "convinced that at times … you have … given up immutability". "A clear expression from you, if you could have given it, would have been potent with the public."
Objects to CL’s description of CD’s view "as a modification of Lamarck’s doctrine". Quotes Henrietta [Darwin]’s observations on this description.
Comments on CL’s controversy with Owen concerning the human brain.
The controversy between Falconer and CL.
The "wretched" review of CL [Antiquity of man, Athenæum 14 Feb 1863, pp. 219–21] and Huxley [Man’s place in nature].
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | Charles Lyell, 1st baronet |
Date: | 12–13 Mar [1863] |
Classmark: | American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.290) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-4038 |
Matches: 8 hits
- … Mss.B.D25.290) Charles Robert Darwin Down 12–13 Mar [1863] Charles Lyell, 1st baronet …
- … To Charles Lyell 12–13 March [1863] …
- … Letter from Charles Lyell, 11 March 1863 . CD refers to Lyell’s reaction to the criticisms …
- … Lyell 1830–3 ). See letter from Charles Lyell, 11 March 1863 . In the second edition of …
- … Owen 1862c (see letter to Charles Lyell, 6 March [1863] and n. 44). Lyell appears to have …
- … has been found. See letter from Charles Lyell, 11 March 1863 and n. 13. CD refers to the …
- … extant text of the letter to Charles Lyell, 6 March [1863] , although CD did criticise an …
- … Lyell, 6 March [1863] and n. 10. See also letter from Charles Lyell, 11 March 1863 . CD …
To Charles Lyell 17 March [1863]
Summary
His better opinion [of work of Boucher de Perthes].
Explains his position on CL’s treatment of species.
Mentions positive response to his ideas on the part of a German professor [Ernst Haeckel], Alphonse de Candolle, and a botanical palaeontologist [Gaston de Saporta].
Notes negative reaction of entomologists.
Mentions Falconer’s objections [to Antiquity].
Mentions work of Hooker.
Comments on paper by Owen ["On the aye-aye", Rep. BAAS 32 (1862) pt 2: 114–16]
and CD’s review of Bates’s paper [Collected papers 2: 87–92].
Thinks Natural History Review is excellent.
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | Charles Lyell, 1st baronet |
Date: | 17 Mar [1863] |
Classmark: | American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.291) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-4047 |
Matches: 10 hits
- … To Charles Lyell 17 March [1863] …
- … Mss.B.D25.291) Charles Robert Darwin Down 17 Mar [1863] Charles Lyell, 1st baronet …
- … 1809 . See letter to Charles Lyell, 12–13 March [1863] and n. 9. CD’s transmutation …
- … letter to CD of 15 March 1863 . See letter from Charles Lyell, 15 March 1863 . CD refers …
- … 1863 . CD refers to Thomas Henry Huxley and the Natural History Review (see letter from Charles Lyell, …
- … Lyell , 6 March [1863] and 12–13 March [1863] ). See letter from Charles Lyell, 15 March …
- … 1863] and n. 44, and 12–13 March [1863] and n. 11. See letter from J. D. Hooker, [23 February 1863] . C. Lyell 1863a . See letter from Charles Lyell, …
- … 1863] and n. 6). Letter from J. D. Hooker, [15 March 1863] . J. D. Hooker 1859 . See letter to Charles Lyell, …
- … 1863] , and letter to J. D. Hooker, 17 March [1863] . See letter from J. D. Hooker, [15 March 1863] and n. 21. Owen 1862c . See letters to Charles Lyell , …
- … 1863 , of which a portion is missing. He also mentions two items sent either with that letter, or possibly with another letter from Lyell that has not been found; namely, a letter from Jacques Boucher de Perthes to Lyell (see n. 2, below), and a letter from Lyell to Joseph Dalton Hooker , discussing the behaviour of Hugh Falconer (see n. 5, below). The letter from Boucher de Perthes has not been found (see n. 1, above). See letter to Charles Lyell, …
From Charles Lyell 9 May 1863
Summary
Has been to Osborne on the Isle of Wight to visit Queen Victoria, who had lots of questions about CD.
Author: | Charles Lyell, 1st baronet |
Addressee: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Date: | 9 May 1863 |
Classmark: | The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell collection Coll-203/B9) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-4149F |
To Charles Lyell 4 [February 1863]
Summary
Thanks CL for "the great book" [Antiquity of man (1863)].
Richard Owen "ought to be ostracised by every Naturalist in England".
CL’s book will "give the whole subject of change of species an enormous advance".
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | Charles Lyell, 1st baronet |
Date: | 4 [Feb 1863] |
Classmark: | American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.287) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-3967 |
To Charles Lyell 18 April [1863]
Summary
Describes a letter he has written to the Athenæum in which he mentions CL’s views on species modification ["Doctrine of heterogeny", Collected papers 2: 78–80].
Comments on criticism of Lyell’s book [Antiquity] by Falconer and others.
Mentions his eczema.
Invites the Lyells to visit.
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | Charles Lyell, 1st baronet |
Date: | 18 Apr [1863] |
Classmark: | American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.294) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-4106 |
Matches: 4 hits
- … To Charles Lyell 18 April [1863] …
- … Mss.B.D25.294) Charles Robert Darwin Down 18 Apr [1863] Charles Lyell, 1st baronet …
- … Charles and Mary Elizabeth Lyell had planned to visit Down House from 1 to 4 March (see letter to J. D. Hooker, 24–5 February [1863] ), …
- … 1863] and n. 11). CD was concerned that Lyell was unwilling to endorse transmutation more wholeheartedly in print. For CD’s disappointment regarding Lyell’s position in C. Lyell 1863a , see, for example, the letter to Charles Lyell, …
To Charles Lyell 14 August [1863]
Summary
Congratulates CL on finding Arctic shells.
Comments on paper by E. B. Hunt ["On the origin, growth, substructure and chronology of the Florida reef", Am. J. Sci. 2d ser. 35 (1863): 197–210].
Mentions J. D. Dana’s health.
George Bentham’s statement on species [Proc. Linn. Soc. Lond. (1863): xi–xxix].
Praises Bates’s book [Naturalist on the river Amazons (1863)].
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | Charles Lyell, 1st baronet |
Date: | 14 Aug [1863] |
Classmark: | American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.296) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-4267 |
Matches: 4 hits
- … To Charles Lyell 14 August [1863] …
- … Mss.B.D25.296) Charles Robert Darwin Down 14 Aug [1863] Charles Lyell, 1st baronet …
- … 1915. [Forbes, James David. ] 1863. [Review of Charles Lyell’s Antiquity of man and other …
- … Charles Langton ; see n. 11, below. The letter from Lyell has not been found; however, see K. M. Lyell ed. 1881, 2: 379. In the letter to J. D. Hooker, 25 [August 1863] , …
To Charles Lyell [7 May 1863]
Summary
Falconer’s letter [attacking CL, Athenæum 4 Apr 1863, pp. 459–60] is most unjust.
Regrets his letter [to Athenæum, on heterogeny] now criticised by Owen.
Comments on article by Samuel Haughton [On the form of cells made by wasps – with an appendix on the origin of species (1863)].
Mentions forthcoming reviews by Asa Gray [in Am. J. Sci.].
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | Charles Lyell, 1st baronet |
Date: | [7 May 1863] |
Classmark: | DAR 185: 46 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-4145 |
From Charles Lyell 15 March 1863
Summary
Lyell has received compliments for letting readers draw own inferences [on species question]. Now feels he earlier did Lamarck injustice. [CD’s] substitution of variety-making power for volition [as in Lamarck] in some respects only a change of names.
Thinks Huxley taking on too many responsibilities.
Author: | Charles Lyell, 1st baronet |
Addressee: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Date: | 15 Mar 1863 |
Classmark: | K. M. Lyell ed. 1881, 2: 364–6 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-4041 |
Matches: 11 hits
- … From Charles Lyell 15 March 1863 …
- … was omitted from the transcription. See also letter to Charles Lyell, 17 March [1863] . …
- … 1881, 2: 364–6 Charles Lyell, 1st baronet London, Harley St, 53 15 Mar 1863 Charles Robert …
- … Worcestershire (see letter to Charles Lyell, 12–13 March [1863] ). CD wrote a letter to …
- … and Lamarck 1809 (see letter to Charles Lyell, 12–13 March [1863] and n. 9). On Lyell’s …
- … progression, see the letter to Charles Lyell, 12–13 March [1863] ; see also n. 15, below, …
- … also Appendix VII. See letter to Charles Lyell, 12–13 March [1863] , n. 9. In C. Lyell …
- … against Russian rule in 1863 ( EB ). See letter to Charles Lyell, 12–13 March [1863] . …
- … D. Hooker, 5 March [1863] and n. 19, and letters to Charles Lyell , 6 March [1863] and …
- … H. Huxley, 26 [February 1863] and n. 6. See also letter to Charles Lyell, 12–13 March [ …
- … 1863] , CD offered suggestions regarding the text of Antiquity of man ( C. Lyell 1863a ), particularly with respect to Lyell’s treatment of natural selection. Joseph Dalton Hooker had sent Lyell a ‘ deflagrating … yarn’, concerning his failure publicly to endorse natural selection in the book (see letter from J. D. Hooker, [15 March 1863] ). See letter from Charles Lyell, …
To Charles Lyell 6 March [1863]
Summary
Comments at length on CL’s book [Antiquity of man (1863)]. CD is "greatly disappointed that you have not given judgment and spoken fairly out what you think about the derivation of species".
Lists large number of queries concerning minor points.
Praises especially the chapters on language and glaciers.
Comments on the temperature of Africa during the glacial period, especially with regard to the views of Hooker.
Mentions Owen’s paper on the aye-aye [Rep. BAAS 32 (1862) pt 2: 114–16].
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | Charles Lyell, 1st baronet |
Date: | 6 Mar [1863] |
Classmark: | American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.289) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-4028 |
Matches: 7 hits
- … To Charles Lyell 6 March [1863] …
- … Society (Mss.B.D25.289) Charles Robert Darwin Down 6 Mar [1863] Charles Lyell, 1st baronet …
- … 504–5). See also letter from Charles Lyell, 11 March 1863 and n. 7. CD refers to Owen …
- … journal. See also letter to Charles Lyell, 17 March [1863] . Antiquity of man was a great …
- … Lyell 1863a ) on 4 February 1863 (see letter to Charles Lyell, 4 [February 1863] ); there …
- … p. 469), but see letter to Charles Lyell, 12–13 March [1863] and n. 17. CD refers to a …
- … Charles and Mary Elizabeth Lyell had planned to visit Down House from 1 to 4 March 1863, …
From Charles Lyell 11 March 1863
Summary
Defends position he takes on species [in Antiquity of man]. CD overestimates CL’s capacity to influence public. Will not dogmatise on descent of man; prepared to accept it, but it "takes away much of the charm from my speculations on the past". Cannot go to Huxley’s length with regard to natural selection. Responds to CD’s comments on Antiquity of man.
Author: | Charles Lyell, 1st baronet |
Addressee: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Date: | 11 Mar 1863 |
Classmark: | K. M. Lyell ed. 1881, 2: 362–4 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-4035 |
Matches: 7 hits
- … From Charles Lyell 11 March 1863 …
- … which CD responded (see letter to Charles Lyell, 12–13 March [1863] and nn. 11 and 17). …
- … 1881, 2: 362–4 Charles Lyell, 1st baronet London, Harley St, 53 11 Mar 1863 Charles Robert …
- … n. 1, above. See also letter to Charles Lyell, 6 March [1863] and n. 20. See letter to …
- … Society on 14 April 1863 (Crawfurd 1863). See letter to Charles Lyell, 6 March [1863] and …
- … 1863 began with a four-page biography of Lyell, including an engraved portrait as the frontispiece ( Year-book of facts in science and art (1863): 3–6). The article stated (p. 6): With regard to ‘the Origin of Species’ … Sir Charles Lyell …
- … 1863, p. 311, stated that, strictly speaking, the work was ‘a trilogy, the constituent elements of which should be headed respectively, Prehistoric Man, Ice, and Darwin. ’ CD was ‘greatly disappointed’ that Lyell had not written more positively in support of the transmutation of species in Antiquity of man ( C. Lyell 1863a ; see letter to Charles Lyell, …
To J. D. Hooker 17 March [1863]
Summary
Lyell’s Antiquity of man lacks originality.
Statements in Lyell provoke CD to determine exact publication date of Origin and JDH’s introductory essay [to Flora Tasmaniae].
CD now believes in repeated periods of global cooling and migration.
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | Joseph Dalton Hooker |
Date: | 17 Mar [1863] |
Classmark: | DAR 115: 187 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-4048 |
Matches: 4 hits
- … Lyell 1863a (see letter from Charles Lyell, 11 March 1863 and n. 13). The postscript …
- … vol. 7). See letter to Charles Lyell, 6 March [1863] and n. 35. The reference is to Hugh …
- … refuge’. See also letter to Charles Lyell, 6 March [1863] and n. 27. See Correspondence …
- … from J. D. Hooker, [15 March 1863] . See letter to Charles Lyell, 17 March [1863] . See …
[Forbes, James David.] 1863. [Review of Charles Lyell’s Antiquity of man and other works.] Edinburgh Review 118: 254–302.
To J. D. Hooker 13 [March 1863]
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | Joseph Dalton Hooker |
Date: | 13 [Mar 1863] |
Classmark: | DAR 115: 186 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-4039 |
Matches: 4 hits
- … 12–13 March [1863] . See letter from Charles Lyell, 11 …
- … 1863 . See letter to Charles Lyell, 12–13 March [1863] . See letter from Charles Lyell, …
- … 1863, pp. 331–2), Lyell quoted what Owen had written on the subject in that paper, commenting that Owen ‘must surely have forgotten his own words’. See also letter to Charles Lyell, …
- … 1863) . There are annotated copies of this work in the Darwin Pamphlet Collection–CUL. Letter from J. D. Hooker, [6 March 1863] . In his letter, Hooker promised to send CD his copy of the Athenæum for 7 March 1863, if it contained, as expected, Charles Lyell’ …
To Hugh Falconer 22 April [1863]
Summary
Good of HF to tell him about Brazilian beast. So intermediate a form is "very glorious". Must assume it is very old.
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | Hugh Falconer |
Date: | 22 Apr [1863] |
Classmark: | DAR 144: 31 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-4121 |
[Phillips, John.] 1863. [Review of Antiquity of man, by Charles Lyell.] Quarterly Review 114: 368–417.
From J. D. Hooker [13 May 1863]
Summary
Lyell is "half-hearted but whole-headed" for CD’s theory. George Bentham wholly converted.
Bates’s book delightful but has a Darwinistic bias.
Cameroon plants.
JDH defends Bates against J. E. Gray’s slanders.
Author: | Joseph Dalton Hooker |
Addressee: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Date: | [13 May 1863] |
Classmark: | DAR 101: 137–40 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-4165 |
Matches: 4 hits
- … 5544). See also n. 25, above, and letter to Charles Lyell, 17 March [1863] and n. 16. …
- … See letter to Charles Lyell, [7 May 1863] , nn. 5 and 6. See letter to J. D. Hooker, …
- … 1863). CD enclosed the letter from Asa Gray, 20 April 1863 , with his letter to Hooker of [9 May 1863] . Charles Lyell ; …
- … 1863] . CD and Hooker had frequently debated these theories on the origin of island plants and animals over many years (see, for example, Correspondence vol. 10, letter from J. D. Hooker, [30 December 1861 or 6 January 1862] and n. 7, and letter to J. D. Hooker, 4 November [1862] and n. 6). Hugh Falconer and Charles Lyell . …
To T. F. Jamieson 6 September [1861]
Summary
Has read TFJ’s letter on Glen Roy. His arguments seem conclusive. CD gives up the ghost. "My paper is one long gigantic blunder." How rash it is "to argue that because a case is not one thing it must be some second thing which happens to be known to the writer".
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | Thomas Francis Jamieson |
Date: | 6 Sept [1861] |
Classmark: | National Library of Scotland (MS. 5406, ff. 167–8) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-3247 |
To T. H. Huxley 18 [February 1863]
Summary
Thanks for "monkey book" [Evidence as to man’s place in nature (1863)].
Must wait till he has finished Lyell [Antiquity of man (1863)].
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | Thomas Henry Huxley |
Date: | 18 [Feb 1863] |
Classmark: | Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine Archives (Huxley 5: 173) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-3996 |
Matches: 2 hits
- … at the beginning of the month (see letter to Charles Lyell, 4 [February 1863] and n. 1). …
- … 1863 ( Publishers’ Circular , 16 February 1863, p. 85, and Athenæum , 21 February 1863, p. 261). Huxley’s Evidence as to man’s place in nature ( T. H. Huxley 1863b ) was published in February 1863 (see n. 1, above) by the London booksellers and publishers Williams & Norgate . CD’s annotated copy is in the Darwin Library–CUL (see Marginalia 1: 423–4). CD refers to Charles Lyell’ …
Crawfurd John. 1863. On Sir Charles Lyell’s ‘Antiquity of man’ and on Professor Huxley’s ‘Evidence as to man’s place in nature’. [Read 14 April 1863.] Transactions of the Ethnological Society of London n.s. 3 (1864–5): 58–70.
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