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To E. W. V. Harcourt   24 June [1856]

Down Farnborough Kent

June 24th

Dear Sir

I am very much obliged for your note & will certainly take advantage of your offer & visit Mr. Leadbeater, but I am not likely to go to London for some weeks.—1 I can take a Rock Pigeon for comparison; but for the swallows (& perhaps a few other Birds) I could only compare them by taking them to the British Museum. Will you entrust them to me? I will pledge myself to take them back the same or next day: in this case, I fear, I shd. have to trouble you to send me a line addressed to Mr Leadbeater, instructing him to give me the skins.—

I am particularly obliged for your kind offer of assistance in case you are compelled to go to Ægypt. On the most ancient monuments there is figured a greyhound-like Dog, but with longer pointed ears, & an extraordinary very short & very much curled tail: Nott & Gliddon in their curious Book assert that exactly the same variety now exists in N. Africa; & I am very curious to hear whether this is really so, for it would be a truly wonderful instance of permanence in a variety, & I shd. be very much obliged if you would make enquiries: I can hardly credit this statement of these not very accurate authors.—2

The subject, which I am chiefly intent on, in regard to variation, is the Domestic Pigeon.3 Skins are on their road to me sent by Mr. Murray from Persia,4 & I hope to get all the breeds from India & China. Any assistance of this nature would be invaluable; but I know it is much too troublesome to expect you yourself to skin birds for me, & I fear there is little chance of your being able to find anyone who could skin; but if this were possible, & you could hear of any breeds of Pigeon, believed to have been long kept in Ægypt, I would gratefully, with your permission, repay you for their purchase & skinning. The Birds shd. be adult   A Tumbler would be particularly valuable, & I hope to get Tumblers from all quarters of the world.— Any observations on any of the domestic animals, as Ducks, Poultry, Rabbits (the skeletons of which I am collecting with great pains),5 Dogs, or Cats, would be very interesting to me.—

I am sure you will see that I have taken your most kind offer in the most literal & freest manner. With my very sincere thanks | I beg leave to remain | Dear Sir | Yours very faithfully | Charles Darwin

My hand is so tired with writing that I fear this note will be even less legible than at the best of times.—

Footnotes

Harcourt’s letter has not been found. John Leadbeater was a taxidermist and bird dealer in London. CD next visited London on 14 August 1856 (Correspondence vol. 6, Appendix II). CD wanted to compare Harcourt’s Madeiran bird specimens with others (see this volume, Supplement, letter to E. W. V. Harcourt, 12 June [1856]).
CD cited Josiah Clark Nott and George Robbins Gliddon’s Types of mankind (Nott and Gliddon 1854, p. 393) on the ancient Egyptian dog in Variation 1: 17.
See Origin, pp. 20–8, and Variation 1: 131–224.
CD cited Charles Augustus Murray, a diplomat, for sending him pigeon skins from Persia in Origin, p. 20.
Tumblers are a variety of domestic pigeons bred for their ability to tumble or roll over backwards in flight; several different types of tumbler were bred in Europe, Persia (Iran), and India. On rabbits’ skeletons, see Correspondence vol. 6, letter to W. D. Fox, 8 [June 1856] and n. 8.

Bibliography

Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.

Nott, Josiah Clark and Gliddon, George Robins. 1854. Types of mankind: or, ethnological researches, based upon the ancient monuments, painting, sculptures, and crania of races and upon their natural, geographical, philological, and biblical history. Philadelphia: Lippincott, Grambo & Co. London: Trübner.

Summary

Thanks EWVH for his offer but he is not likely to go to London soon to visit John Leadbeater, the bird dealer; he could take a rock pigeon for comparison, but other skins he would have compare at the British Museum.

Would be obliged if EWVH could investigate domestic species in Egypt, especially a type of dog depicted in ancient monuments; and he is particularly interested in tumbler pigeons.

Letter details

Letter no.
DCP-LETT-1909F
From
Charles Robert Darwin
To
Edward William Vernon Harcourt
Sent from
Down
Source of text
Bodleian Libraries, Oxford (MS. Harcourt dep. adds. 346, fols. 255–7)
Physical description
ALS 6pp

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Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 1909F,” accessed on 26 April 2024, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-1909F.xml

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