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From Giuseppe Carboni1   13 September 1871

Mr. Chârles Darwin | Londres

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La distanza che ci separa è tale che se non impossibile difficile assai si è che io lo possa vedere in persona, cosa che molto mi sarebbe cara se si verificasse, ma prevedendo il contrario le sarei per chiederle un favore, e cioè se le piacesse onorarmi di un suo pregiato Autografo seppure io a lei del tutto ignoto le sia. Cio non ostante spero che Ella sarà tanto compiacente di soddisfarmi in questa mia desiderata brama tanto più che io porto speciale affezione a chi, come me, si è dedicato agli studi naturali.

Certo io non sono fra quelli che lodano o biasimano taluno secondo le loro opinioni, dalle quali poi prendono il movente principale delle proprie azioni, sieno pur erronee: e ben si è espresso il Prof: Lessona, su ciò, nel principio della traduzione che sta facendo della sua bellissima opera—L’origine dell’uomo &c.—2

La fotografia che qui troverà inclusa, se ella non se ne offende, io glie la offro, ed ho voluto con questo emblema significare l’idea del Materialismo Scientifico servendomene poi come simbolo mio particolare nelle lettere che scrivo—3 se io sia riescito nella mia idea certo che a me non istà il guidicare, ed anzi aspetto, da lei, su ciò un guidizio che per me sarà inappellabile.

Coll speranza adunque di essere onorato di quanto le chieggo le anticipo i miei piu vivi e sinceri ringraziamenti e salutandolo con distinta stima mi creda | devo umb servitore | G Carboni

Ecco il mio indirizzo

A Giuseppe Carboni Strada Stefano 97 Casa Pavallicini Bologna Italia

Bologna 13 Settembre 1871

Footnotes

For a translation of this letter, see Correspondence vol. 19, Appendix I. Giuseppe Carboni has not been further identified.
Michele Lessona was translating Descent into Italian (Lessona trans. 1871).
The writing on the emblem at the top of Carboni’s notepaper reads ‘Moleschott Büchner Darwin | scienza | natura | forza e materia’. Jacob Moleschott and Ludwig Büchner were known for their materialist views.

Bibliography

Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.

Descent: The descent of man, and selection in relation to sex. By Charles Darwin. 2 vols. London: John Murray. 1871.

Translation

From Giuseppe Carboni1   13 September 1871

Mr Charles Darwin | London

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The distance which separates us is such that it is not impossible difficult enough for me to be able to see you in person, a thing that would be really precious to me if it could take place, but predicting the opposite it is for me to ask you a favour, and that is if it would please you to honour me with one of your precious Autographs even though I am completely unknown to you. This not standing in the way, I hope that you will be very pleased to satisfy me in my longing yearning all the more as I have a special affection for someone, who, like me, is dedicated to the study of nature.

Of course I am not the sort of person who praises or reproves anyone according to their opinions then adopts them as the principal motive of their own actions, it would be totally wrong: well, that is how Prof. Lessona, recently, expressed himself at the beginning of the translation that he is making of your most beautiful work— The origin of man &c.—2

I offer you the photograph that you will find enclosed, if you are not offended by it, and with this emblem I wanted to signify the idea of Scientific Materialism and it has come to serve as my personal symbol on the letters that I write—3 Whether I have succeeded in my idea it is of course not for me to judge, so I await a judgement on it from you which I will regard as unchallengeable.

In the hope therefore of being honoured with what I have requested, I anticipate with my strongest and most sincere thanks and in taking my leave with distinct esteem believe me | your obliged humble servant | G Carboni

Here is my address

To Giuseppe Carboni Strada Stefano 97 Casa Pavallicini Bologna Italy

Bologna 13 September 1871

Footnotes

For a transcription of this letter in its original Italian, see pp. 569–70.
Michele Lessona was translating Descent into Italian (Lessona trans. 1871).
The writing on the emblem at the top of Carboni’s notepaper reads ‘Moleschott Büchner Darwin | scienza | natura | forza e materia’. Jacob Moleschott and Ludwig Büchner were known for their materialist views.

Bibliography

Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.

Descent: The descent of man, and selection in relation to sex. By Charles Darwin. 2 vols. London: John Murray. 1871.

Summary

Requests CD’s autograph.

Sends photograph of an emblem, which he uses as his personal symbol: "Moleshott, Büchner, Darwin: Scienza e Natura, Forza e Materia".

Letter details

Letter no.
DCP-LETT-7942
From
Giuseppe Carboni
To
Charles Robert Darwin
Sent from
Bologna
Source of text
DAR 161: 45
Physical description
ALS 2pp

Please cite as

Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 7942,” accessed on 1 May 2024, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-7942.xml

Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 19

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