To Charles Lyell [1 September 1844]1
Down near Bromley | Kent
Sunday
My dear Lyell
I was glad to get your note & wanted to hear about your work—2 I have been looking to see it advertised— it has been a long task— I had, before your return from Scotland, determined to come up & see you; but, as I had nothing else to do in town, my courage has gradually eased off, more especially as I have not been very well lately.— We get so many invitations here, that we are grown quite dissipated—but my stomach has stood it so ill, that we are going to have a month’s holidays & go nowhere. The subject, which I was most anxious to talk over with you, I have settled, by having written 60 pages of my S. American geology— I am in pretty good heart & am determined to have very little theory & only short descriptions.— The two first chapters, I think will be pretty good, on the elevation & great gravel terraces & plains of Patagonia & Chile & Peru.— I am astounded & grieved over d’Orbigny’s nonsense of sudden elevations; I must give you one of his cases.3
He finds still attached to the rocks at 300 ft, six species of truly littoral shells
He finds at 20 to 30 ft above sea, an immense accumulation of chiefly littoral shells.
He argues the whole 600 ft uplifted at one blow, because the attached shells at 300 ft have not been displaced.
Therefore when the sea formed a beach at 600 ft, the present littoral shells, were attached to rocks at 300 ft depth, & these same shells were accumulating by thousands, at 600 ft. depth.— Hear this oh Forbes:4 is it not monstrous for a professed conchologist?— This is a fair specimen of his reasoning. One of his arguments against the Pampas being a slow deposit, is that mammifers are very seldom washed by rivers into the sea!5 Because at 12,000 ft he finds the same kind of clay with that of the Pampas, he never doubts that it is contemporaneous with the Pampæan debacle, which accompanied the right Royal salute of every volcano in the Cordillera. What a pity these Frenchmen do not catch hold of a comet, & return to the good old geological dramas, of Burnett & Whiston—6 I shall keep out of controversy, & just give my own facts. It is enough to disgust one with Geology;—though I have been much pleased with the frank, decided, though courteous manner, with which d’orbigny disputes my conclusions, given unfortunately without facts & sometimes rashly in my Journal.7
Enough of S. America: I wish you wd: ask Mr Horner (for I forgot to do so, & am unwilling to trouble him again) whether he thinks there is too much detail, (quite independently of the merit of the book) in my volcanic volume; as to know this, wd. be of some real use to me; you could tell me, when we meet after York, when I will come to town: I had intended being at York, but my courage has failed; I shd much like to hear your lecture,8 but still more to read it; as I think reading is always better than hearing.
I am very glad you talk of a visit to us in the Autumn; if you can spare the time, I shall be truly glad to see Mrs. Lyell & yourself here; but I have scruples in asking anyone, for you know how dull we are here. Young Hooker talks of coming; I wish he might meet you— he appears to me a most engaging young-man.
I have been delighted with Prescott,9 of which I have read Vol I, at your recommendation; I have just been a good deal interested with W. Taylor of Norwich Life & correspondence.10
Farewell—with our kind remembrances to Mrs Lyell | Ever yours | C. Darwin
We had, until this morning when we heard, much hoped to have seen Mr & Mrs Horner here at Down.
On your return from York I shall expect a great supply of geological gossip:
Footnotes
Bibliography
Browne, Janet. 1983. The secular ark. Studies in the history of biogeography. New Haven, Conn., and London: Yale University Press.
Journal of researches: Journal of researches into the geology and natural history of the various countries visited by HMS Beagle, under the command of Captain FitzRoy, RN, from 1832 to 1836. By Charles Darwin. London: Henry Colburn. 1839.
Orbigny, Alcide Charles Victor Dessalines d’. 1835–47. Voyage dans l’Amérique Méridionale (le Brésil, la République orientale de l’Uruguay, la République Argentine, la Patagonie, la République du Chili, la République de Bolivia, la République du Pérou), exécuté pendant les années 1826 … 1833. 6 vols. in 7 and 4 atlases. Paris and Strasbourg: Pitois-Levrault et Cie, P. Bertrand.
Prescott, William Hickling. 1843. History of the conquest of Mexico, with a preliminary view of the ancient Mexican civilization, and the life of the conqueror, Hernando Cortés. 3 vols. London.
Rehbock, Philip F. 1983. The philosophical naturalists. Themes in early nineteenth-century British biology. Madison, Wis., and London: University of Wisconsin Press.
Robberds, John Warden. 1843. A memoir of the life and writings of the late William Taylor of Norwich. 2 vols. London.
South America: Geological observations on South America. Being the third part of the geology of the voyage of the Beagle, under the command of Capt. FitzRoy RN, during the years 1832 to 1836. By Charles Darwin. London: Smith, Elder & Co. 1846.
Vorzimmer, Peter J. 1977. The Darwin reading notebooks (1838-1860). Journal of the History of Biology 10: 107–53.
Summary
Asks about CL’s new book [Travels in North America (1845)].
Discusses views of A. D. d’Orbigny on elevation.
Mentions reading W. H. Prescott [History of the conquest of Mexico (1843)].
Letter details
- Letter no.
- DCP-LETT-773
- From
- Charles Robert Darwin
- To
- Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
- Sent from
- Down
- Source of text
- American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.39)
- Physical description
- ALS 7pp †
Please cite as
Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 773,” accessed on 26 September 2022, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-773.xml
Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 3