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To E. W. V. Harcourt   15 December [1857]

Down Bromley Kent

December 15th

My dear Sir

I am very much obliged for your kind note & invitation; but my health has been for some time so indifferent that I hardly ever leave home, & a journey to Hastings would fatigue me considerably.1

I thank you much for your very obliging offer of lending me the Pigeons; but it so long & troublesome a journey to this out of the way village that it is not worth while on the poor Pigeons & my own account to accept your offer; more especially as I shall so soon have a good opportunity of seeing them at the Crystal Palace.2 I look forward with much interest to seeing them; for I suspect that they will turn out to be unimproved Barbs; & if so though in the Fanciers eyes of not much value they will be of extreme interest to me.—3 I have now got skins of unimproved Carriers & Tumblers both from Persia & India, & it is most instructive to me to see the changes (& improvements as the Fanciers consider them) which have been produced in these birds.— If they turn out to be original Barbs or any Breed new to me, I will most gratefully accept your offer of a specimen or two after they have bred in the Spring.—

With my very true thanks, I beg leave to remain. | Yours sincerely obliged | Ch. Darwin

Footnotes

Harcourt’s letter has not been found; he lived at Hastings (Correspondence vol. 6, letter from E. W. V. Harcourt, 31 May 1856).
See this volume, Supplement, letter to E. W. V. Harcourt, 13 December [1857] and n. 2. Harcourt evidently offered to lend CD his African owl pigeons.
Barbs were an old pigeon breed, notable for their very short beaks; this feature was also characteristic of African owl pigeons. In Variation 1: 144–6 and 148–9, CD placed these breeds in different groups, despite the similarities of beak size.

Bibliography

Variation: The variation of animals and plants under domestication. By Charles Darwin. 2 vols. London: John Murray. 1868.

Summary

Will not accept invitation to Hastings, or offer to send pigeons to Down.

Is looking forward to seeing pigeons at Crystal Palace poultry show.

Letter details

Letter no.
DCP-LETT-2184F
From
Charles Robert Darwin
To
Edward William Vernon Harcourt
Sent from
Down
Source of text
Bodleian Libraries, Oxford (MS. Harcourt dep. adds. 346, fols. 263–4)
Physical description
ALS 4pp

Please cite as

Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 2184F,” accessed on 23 April 2024, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-2184F.xml

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