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From John Ball   8 August 1879

Alagna Piedmont | 10, Southwell Gardens, | South Kensington.

8 Aug. 1879

Dear Mr Darwin

Before leaving England for the Alps I corrected the proofs of a lecture on the Origin of alpine vegetation of which a copy has I trust been forwarded to you, in the hope that you might take the trouble of reading it.1 I am fully aware that in addition to the inherent difficulties of the undertaking arising from the imperfection of existing materials & my own inadequate knowledge of those that exist—a popular lecture is not a satisfactory form in which to put forward views that require for their exposition a vast array of well-arranged facts to many of which I could give no space whatever in the lecture. But I thought that in this brief and incomplete form I might at least succeed in directing to the subject the attention of some of those best able to judge of it, and that if as I hope I should be able to discuss the whole matter more fully hereafter I could not fail to benefit by the opinions which the present essay might elicit—

It is quite unnecessary to say that there is no one whose judgement I look to with such deep interest as yours—quite certain that it will in no way be affected by the circumstance that on one or two points I have ventured to dissent from opinions that you have sanctioned—2 Of all the arguments that seem to me to favour the belief in the high antiquity of the existing genera & tribes of plants one of strongest, as I think, is that derived from the great differences in the distribution of very many natural orders & conspicuous genera. Making every allowance for peculiarities of structure that must in some cases have largely affected the distribution of certain groups, either in a positive or negative direction, it yet seems almost impossible to account for the facts without allowing vast intervals of time & corresponding changes on the earth’s surface between the dates at which different groups were distributed— Of course any attempt to illustrate this argument in detail would have been impossible in my lecture but to those who know the facts I think it will not be without weight.

If you should favour me with a word of remark on the subject it will be forwarded from my London address given above.

I remain always | very truly yours | John Ball

Footnotes

Ball had sent his lecture to the Royal Geographical Society, ‘On the origin of the flora of the European Alps’ (Ball 1879); an annotated copy is in the Darwin Pamphlet Collection–CUL.
In Ball 1879, Ball challenged the theory of glacial migration, which CD had used as part of his theory of geographical distribution in Origin, pp. 367–70. He also speculated that the conditions were right in terms of levels of carbonic acid in the atmosphere for flowering plants to have evolved in alpine regions before the carboniferous period. CD agreed with William Turner Thiselton-Dyer’s opinion that the theory was as unlikely as William Thomson’s hypothesis of the sun’s energy being constantly replenished by meteors and asteroids; see letter to W. T. Thiselton-Dyer, 18 June 1879 and n. 5.

Bibliography

Ball, John. 1879. On the origin of the flora of the European Alps. [Read 9 June 1879.] Proceedings of the Royal Geographical Society and Monthly Record of Geography 1: 564–89.

Origin: On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1859.

Summary

Hopes CD will read and comment on his lecture ["Origin of flora of the Alps", Proc. R. Geogr. Soc. (1879)]. Disgrees with CD; JB maintains that the high antiquity of existing plant genera and families explains wide differences in their distribution.

Letter details

Letter no.
DCP-LETT-12187
From
John Ball
To
Charles Robert Darwin
Sent from
Piedmont
Source of text
DAR 160: 35
Physical description
ALS 4pp

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Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 12187,” accessed on 19 April 2024, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-12187.xml

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