To Francis Darwin 17 July [1878]1
Down, | Beckenham, Kent. | Railway Station | Orpington. S.E.R.
July 17th
My dearest F.
Before answering your long letter, there are a few miscellaneous points to touch on.—2 You audacious dog I have answered about Printing machine without the aid of red-pencil &c.— I rather hope you will feel inclined to give it to Semper.3
I have got branch of Porliera with Quick-lime, & fancy it has produced very slight effect. Your rain-case with Porliera is capital: when leaflets are asleep about of under surface is protected or covered by next leaflet behind, & I imagined that perhaps there wd be very few or no stomata in the unprotected part.—4
In the proceeding of K. Akad. d. Wissenschaften in Wien. In No XVI just received there is long abstract of great Paper or book by Wiesner on Heliotropism & Geotropism: it seems very important, but I cannot understand it; do get it at Wurzburg & read it; my puzzle is at p. 139, what on earth he means by “Induction”.— Perhaps Sachs will have read it— After you have read it; if you do not understand talk to him about “Induction”.—5
I have nearly finished with Thalia— it is a wonderful case, but not worth the time which I have spent on it; as I now find through Dyer that Delpino has described an allied genus, but seems to have entirely missed the interesting point of sensitiveness.—6
I partially agree with what Sachs says about the distinction between the circumnutation of free twiners, & the subsequent growth on one side after they have twined round a support; that the growth then is almost exclusively on one side alone is, I think, shown by their clasping the stems very closely; but they slide a little up the support in their coiled state which seems to show that there must be a little growth on all sides.— Nor can I see why the part beyond point of contact shd at once stop circumnutating. This seems well worth investigating.— There is nothing about this, I believe, in my book, except the fact of sliding up, & I had not thought of it in relation to our general view of modified circumnutation.— At p. 131 of 2d Edit there is the passage about circumnutation of tendrils stopping when apogeotropism comes into action; but you must remember that I there speak only of conspicuous circumnutation.7 Lately I have observed several plants; laid on one side for apogeotropism to act carefully by tracing, & the line is sometimes quite straight, but more commonly slightly zig-zag, showing a vestige of circumnutation, just as with Heliotropism.
At—p. 129 of Climbing book there is fine case of modified circumnutation in order for tendril to pass over terminal shoot.8
I never tried turning a twined plant upside down; so your fact new to me.—9
I told De Vries the case about tips of tendrils (p. 132) was well worth investigating in relation to growth, & he seemed to agree.—10
The contraction of tendril into spire, which is so important for the plant, seems another case of modified circumnutation or rather, I suppose, of growth prolonged on one side alone after it has ceased on all other sides.— I cannot believe that a tendril curling when touched in less than 1m. is due to growth; & De Vries seemed in a letter to me staggered by my arguments.11
You must remember when I wrote the 1st Edit. of Climbers, I knew very little about growth or cause of circumnutation. I do not know whether I have answered what you want to know, & whether this note will be intelligible. You have given me fine list of Sleepers.12
It is very odd about wet & dry culms of grass & sticks: does Sachs understand it.—13
Something made me think the other day that aggregation in roots from C. of Ammonia, wd be in your line & wd. be fine subject: a little wild Euphorbia showed it plainest, & a wonderful phenomenon it was.—14 I wonder no one has taken it up.
Bernard gets more & more charming: he rebuked me sternly yesterday, because I said he was going in a booboo, whereas I ought to have said a gee-gee.—15
Dearest old Backy | C. D.—
I fear this letter will bother you to read.
CD annotations
Footnotes
Bibliography
Climbing plants 2d ed.: The movements and habits of climbing plants. 2d edition. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1875.
Climbing plants: On the movements and habits of climbing plants. By Charles Darwin. London: Longman, Green, Longman, Roberts & Green; Williams & Norgate. 1865.
Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.
Delpino, Federico. 1870b. Brief remarks on the biology and genealogy of the Marantaceæ. Scientific Opinion 3: 111–12, 135–7.
Insectivorous plants. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1875.
Wiesner, Julius. 1878–80. Die heliotropischen Erscheinungen im Pflanzenreiche. [Read 4 July 1878 and 18 March 1880.] Denkschriften der kaiserlichen Akademie der Wissenschaften, mathematisch-naturwissenschaftliche Classe 39 (1879) pt. 1: 143–209; 42 (1880) pt. 1: 1–92.
Summary
Discusses sleep movements of Porlieria.
Has read an abstract of Julius Wiesner on heliotropism and geotropism ["Die heliotropischen Erscheinungen im Pflanzenreiche", Anz. Kais. Akad. Wiss. Wien 15 (1878): 137–40] which seems important but is puzzling.
Gives details of his observations on climbing plants with reference to comments by Julius Sachs.
Letter details
- Letter no.
- DCP-LETT-11615
- From
- Charles Robert Darwin
- To
- Francis Darwin
- Sent from
- Down
- Source of text
- DAR 211: 37
- Physical description
- ALS 8pp †
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Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 11615,” accessed on 26 September 2022, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-11615.xml