From John Murray 29 November [1877]1
50, Albemarle St. | W.
Novr 29
My Dear Sir
The understanding between us as to the publication of your works, is as you rightly state that I pay you at the rate of two thirds of the profits of every Edition.2
As however you desired to be paid before the Editions are sold off, it is to a certain extent a matter of Estimate to calculate the exact amount of profit
It may thus have happened that where all the copies of an Edn. were sold my share may have a little exceeded the exact amount of d.—
To enable you however better to judge of this I send you the accounts in detail of the cost & produce of
The Forms of Flowers—
The Descent of Man—
upon wch my estimates of payment for those two books were founded.
By comparing the two you will perceive how it comes about that the Authors profits on each are nearly identical in amount. If in future you wd consent to receive annual statements of the sale of your books the payments wd be made to you in proportion to the rate of sale & every copy wd be accounted for when all were sold. This is my usual practice with Authors & admits of no uncertainty—
I will beg your attention to the account of Insectivorous Plants—as an example of the opposite side of the question— In this case having paid you in advance & according to estimate £560" I am a gainer down to the present time of not quite £100"—!3
I hope you do not regret ceding to me the Profits of “Orchids” considering how despondent you were at the outset of the Success of that work—wch indeed took eleven years to run off, but if you are I beg to say that in the next Edition I am willing to place it on the footing of your other works & as soon as the sale shall have paid the outlay will give you ds profits4
I remain My Dear Sir | Yours very sincerely | John Murray
Chas Darwin Esqr
[Enclosure]
Estimated A/c Supposing all sold | ||||||||||||
De | Descent of Man | Cr | ||||||||||
1877 | 1877 | |||||||||||
June | To | To Printing 1000 No | 31 | 17 | — | June | By 1000 copies | |||||
" | 30 Reams Paper | 39 | — | — | Sold Say | |||||||
" | Binding 1000 copies | 29 | 3 | 4 | 684 | Trade 25 | 6/ | 197 | 2 | — | ||
as 24 | ||||||||||||
" | Advertising say | 25 | — | — | 316 | do " " | 6/55 | 97 | 10 | 8 | ||
" | Comn alld agents" | 6 | — | — | 1000 | |||||||
" | Balance Profit | 163 | 12 | 4 | ||||||||
294 | 12 | 8 | 294 | 12 | 8 | |||||||
Nov | By Author’s | 109 | 1 | 6 | ||||||||
Memn | ||||||||||||
548 on Hand Nov. 29th 1877 |
Estimated a/c Supposing all Sold | ||||||||||||||
De | Different Forms of Flowers | Cr | ||||||||||||
1877 | 1877 | |||||||||||||
June | To | Printing 1250 No. and | 148 | 12 | — | June | By | 1000 | copies | |||||
Stereo plates for | ||||||||||||||
Sep | America6 | — | — | Sep | 250 | " | ||||||||
" | 28 Rms Paper | 54 | 17 | 3 | 1250 | |||||||||
" | Making Index | 6 | — | — | 5 | Stats Hall7 | ||||||||
" | Cooper Engraving8 | 11 | 1 | — | 24 | Allowd Author | ||||||||
" | Electros | 2 | 2 | 6 | say | 38 | Reviews | |||||||
" | Binding 1250 copies | 33 | 17 | 1 | 1183 | Sold | ||||||||
say | ||||||||||||||
" | Advertising | 25 | — | — | 600 | Trade 25 as 24 | 7/ | 201 | 12 | — | ||||
" | Comn alld agents &c | 7 | — | — | 583 | do " " | 7/6 | 210 | — | — | ||||
" | Balance Profit | 154 | 14 | 2 | 1183 | |||||||||
By Appleton & Co | 31 | 12 | — | |||||||||||
for Stereo plates | ||||||||||||||
for America | ||||||||||||||
443 | 4 | — | 443 | 4 | — | |||||||||
1877 | ||||||||||||||
Nov | By Author’s | 103 | 2 | 9 | ||||||||||
Profit | ||||||||||||||
Memn | ||||||||||||||
54 on Hand |
Footnotes
Bibliography
Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.
Forms of flowers: The different forms of flowers on plants of the same species. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1877.
Orchids: On the various contrivances by which British and foreign orchids are fertilised by insects, and on the good effects of intercrossing. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1862.
Plant, Marjorie. 1965. The English book trade. An economic history of the making and sale of books. 2d edition. London: George Allen & Unwin.
Seville, Catherine. 1999. Literary copyright reform in early Victorian England: the framing of the 1842 Copyright Act. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
Summary
Answers CD’s query about payment made to him [for Descent and Forms of flowers] and explains the basis on which it was made. Because of CD’s wish to be paid before editions are sold off, profits must be estimated. If he were willing to accept annual statements of sales, payments based on them, and final accounting when all were sold, there would be no uncertainty. This is JM’s usual practice.
Letter details
- Letter no.
- DCP-LETT-11259
- From
- John Murray
- To
- Charles Robert Darwin
- Sent from
- London, Albemarle St, 50
- Source of text
- DAR 171: 497, DAR 210.11: 12
- Physical description
- ALS 4pp encl 1p
Please cite as
Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 11259,” accessed on 28 November 2024, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-11259.xml