To John Murray 16 October [1866]
Summary
Arrangements for woodcuts [in Variation]. Hopes to be ready to print early in 1867.
Encloses letter from Asa Gray [5160] about Appleton’s refusal to alter their plates for a new edition of Origin.
CD asks JM to consider Gray’s plan to have the English edition compete with the American.
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | John Murray |
Date: | 16 Oct [1866] |
Classmark: | National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 147–148) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5245 |
From John Murray 18 October [1866]
Summary
JM states he will publish [Variation] on same basis as Origin, i.e., paying CD two-thirds of the profits.
In response to Asa Gray’s suggestion, he could supply Ticknor & Fields with 250 copies [of Origin, 4th ed.] at half-price.
Author: | John Murray |
Addressee: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Date: | 18 Oct [1866] |
Classmark: | DAR 171: 338 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5246 |
To John Murray 23 October [1866]
Summary
A letter from Asa Gray informs CD that Ticknor & Fields will not publish a new edition of Origin to compete with Appleton’s unrevised edition. They recommend sending copies of the English edition for the American market.
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | John Murray |
Date: | 23 Oct [1866] |
Classmark: | National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 151–152) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5253 |
From John Murray 25 October [1866]
Summary
Under circumstances [reluctance of Ticknor & Fields to compete with Appleton], best course is to offer Appleton the 250 copies [of 4th English edition of Origin].
Author: | John Murray |
Addressee: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Date: | 25 Oct [1866] |
Classmark: | DAR 171: 339 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5255 |
To John Murray 21 and 22 December [1866]
Summary
Submits the MS of Variation, all excepting the section on Man.
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | John Murray |
Date: | 21 and 22 Dec 1866 |
Classmark: | Herb Sewell (private collection) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5314F |
From John Murray 22 December [1866]
Summary
The presentation copy [of Origin, 4th ed.] was sent to B. D. Walsh in August. Will send another.
Author: | John Murray |
Addressee: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Date: | 22 Dec [1866] |
Classmark: | DAR 171: 340 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5317 |
From John Murray 24 December [1866]
Summary
Two parcels of MS [of Variation] have arrived. Will proceed with printing immediately after Christmas.
Author: | John Murray |
Addressee: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Date: | 24 Dec [1866] |
Classmark: | DAR 171: 341 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5322 |
From John Murray 2 January [1867]
Summary
William Clowes [printer for J. Murray] estimates that Variation will come to a first volume of 648 pages and a second volume of 624 pages – which is too much for volumes the same size as Origin. Murray proposes a larger size.
Author: | John Murray |
Addressee: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Date: | 2 Jan [1867] |
Classmark: | DAR 171: 342 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5345 |
To John Murray 3 January [1867]
Summary
Sorry about enormous size of Variation MS, but cannot shorten it now. If JM is afraid to publish, CD will consider agreement cancelled. Suggests he ask someone with judgment to read the MS. Has written concluding chapter on man. Whether it will be included depends on size of volume.
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | John Murray |
Date: | 3 Jan [1867] |
Classmark: | National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 158–160) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5346 |
To John Murray 8 January [1867]
Summary
CD annoyed at large size of Variation. Suggests printing detailed parts in small type. JM can, of course, decline to publish altogether.
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | John Murray |
Date: | 8 Jan [1867] |
Classmark: | National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 155–157) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5350 |
From John Murray 9 January [1867]
Summary
CD should not be discouraged by the bulk of Variation. CD’s suggestion to print technical details in small type is good.
Murray has sent MS to a "man of letters and good information" as an experiment to test its effect. Has no intention of throwing up publication.
Author: | John Murray |
Addressee: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Date: | 9 Jan [1867] |
Classmark: | DAR 171: 343 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5354 |
To John Murray 10 January [1867]
Summary
Relieved by JM’s note and by his agreement on type size. Is alarmed by what the verdict [on Variation] of JM’s friend will be. He is not a man of science. An unscientific reader would have condemned the Origin. An eminent semi-scientific man thought the Journal of researches not worth publishing.
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | John Murray |
Date: | 10 Jan [1867] |
Classmark: | National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 f. 166) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5356 |
To John Murray 15 January [1867]
Summary
Approves of type [for Variation]. Pleased to hear from Hooker that he is not surprised that MS is big.
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | John Murray |
Date: | 15 Jan [1867] |
Classmark: | National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 f. 161) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5363 |
To John Murray 27 January [1867]
Summary
Hopes JM’s friend will give his judgment [on Variation] soon; and urges JM to come to a decision about publishing. CD believes it will have "a fair sale".
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | John Murray |
Date: | 27 Jan [1867] |
Classmark: | National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 153–154) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5379 |
From John Murray 28 January [1867]
Summary
JM will publish [Variation] "coute qui coute", paying CD half the profits.
Thinks he can count on 500 purchases of what he calls the "Pièces Justificatives" of the Origin and will print 750 copies.
His literary friend found it "difficult of digestion".
Author: | John Murray |
Addressee: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Date: | 28 Jan [1867] |
Classmark: | DAR 171: 344 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5380 |
To John Murray 29 January [1867]
Summary
CD agrees to JM’s proposal of half-profits. Thinks it a mistake to print only 750 copies. The agreement on half-profit is for first edition only. CD estimates his book at a higher value than JM does.
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | John Murray |
Date: | 29 Jan [1867] |
Classmark: | National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 162–163) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5382 |
From John Murray 30 January [1867]
Summary
First portion of Variation MS has been set up. Murray will not decide on number to be printed until he has read a good portion. The agreement applies only to the first edition.
Author: | John Murray |
Addressee: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Date: | 30 Jan [1867] |
Classmark: | DAR 171: 345 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5383 |
To John Murray 31 January [1867]
Summary
Is convinced his chapter on man [for Variation] will excite plenty of attention and abuse, which he supposes is as good as praise for selling a book.
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | John Murray |
Date: | 31 Jan [1867] |
Classmark: | National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 164–165) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5384 |
From John Murray 24 February [1866]
Summary
Sends sheets of Origin [4th edition] for CD to correct [for 3d German edition?].
Still has 600 copies of Orchids, but deficit reduced to £30.
Undertakes to pay two-thirds of profits of the [fourth] edition of Origin as soon as one-half of the copies are sold.
Author: | John Murray |
Addressee: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Date: | 24 Feb [1866] |
Classmark: | DAR 171: 346 |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5417 |
To John Murray 18 March [1867]
Summary
The compositors have invented a title [for Variation] which CD thinks is better than the advertised one. CD can form no opinion on number of copies. Asks that clean sheets be sent to German and Russian publishers for translation.
Author: | Charles Robert Darwin |
Addressee: | John Murray |
Date: | 18 Mar [1867] |
Classmark: | National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 167–168) |
Letter no: | DCP-LETT-5446 |
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