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To W. E. Darwin   [23 October – 20 November 1859]

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Tells how to get information on, and gain membership in, the London Library.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  William Erasmus Darwin
Date:  [23 Oct – 20 Nov 1859]
Classmark:  DAR 210.6: 48
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2497

To W. E. Darwin   [14 October 1859]

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Discusses events at Ilkley.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  William Erasmus Darwin
Date:  [14 Oct 1859]
Classmark:  DAR 210.6: 49
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2498

To James Paget   [15 October – 19 November 1859]

Summary

Thanks JP for bearing in mind his strong wish to learn any facts on inheritance at corresponding ages, and on correlation of growth.

JP’s case of teeth affected by syphilitic parents seems very curious. Would like to hear a few particulars when they meet.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  James Paget, 1st baronet
Date:  [15 Oct – 19 Nov 1859]
Classmark:  Wellcome Collection (MS.5703/27)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2500

From Charles Lyell   3 October 1859

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Praises the Origin: a "splendid case of close reasoning".

Objects to CD’s having ignored Lamarck and Geoffroy Saint-Hilaire.

Thinks CD should omit mentioning problem of explaining the eye at the beginning of chapter 14. Suggests rewording several passages.

Thinks want of peculiar birds in Madeira a difficulty, considering presence of them in Galapagos.

Has always felt that the case of man and his races is one and the same with animals and plants.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  3 Oct 1859
Classmark:  DAR 98: B1–6
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2501

DCP-LETT-2501F

Summary

Cancelled: Known only from reference in letter to Charles Lyell, 11 October [1859]

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  [4 October 1859]
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Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2501F

To W. D. Fox   [6 October 1859]

Summary

First impressions of the water-cure establishment are not favourable – "I always hate everything new".

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  William Darwin Fox
Date:  [6 Oct 1859]
Classmark:  Christ’s College Library, Cambridge (MS 53 Fox 123)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2502

To Charles Lyell   11 October [1859]

Summary

CL’s comments on Origin. Mentions corrections to last chapter suggested by CL.

Comments on lack of peculiar bird species on Madeira and Bermuda. Emphasises importance of American types in Galapagos.

Denies necessity of continued creation of primitive "Monads".

Denies need for new powers and any principle of improvement.

Discusses gradations of intellectual powers.

Adaptive inferiority and extinction of groups of species and genera.

Asserts that climate is less important than the struggle with other organisms.

Suggests an experiment involving primroses and cowslips.

The chapter on hybridisation.

Rudimentary organs.

Gives opinion of Lamarck’s work.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Date:  11 Oct [1859]
Classmark:  American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.172)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2503

To J. D. Hooker   15 October [1859]

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Book finished some two weeks.

Feeling much better at Ilkley.

Lyell thinks favourably of book but "staggered" at lengths to which CD goes.

Which continental botanists should receive presentation copies?

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Joseph Dalton Hooker
Date:  15 Oct [1859]
Classmark:  DAR 115: 23
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2504

To T. H. Huxley   15 October [1859]

Summary

Origin is finished.

Asks for names of foreign speculative naturalists.

Hopes THH will think he is on right road despite errors.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Thomas Henry Huxley
Date:  15 Oct [1859]
Classmark:  Imperial College of Science, Technology, and Medicine Archives (Huxley 5: 70)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2505

To John Murray   15 October [1859]

Summary

Discusses presentation copies [of the Origin].

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  15 Oct [1859]
Classmark:  DAR R 143 (with R. F. Cooke correspondence)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2506

To Charles Lyell   20 October [1859]

Summary

Comments on CL’s letters.

Discusses foreign animals naturalised in Australia and elsewhere.

Affirms man’s capacity to survive in Eocene climate.

Comments on American types.

Denies necessity for "continued intervention of creative power".

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Date:  20 Oct [1859]
Classmark:  American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.173)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2507

To John Murray   20 October [1859]

Summary

Cannot suggest an appropriate device or ornament for cover [of Origin].

Will send a list for distribution of author’s copies as soon as JM tells him approximate trade price.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  20 Oct [1859]
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff.94–95)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2508

From Charles Lyell   22 October 1859

Summary

Wishes CD would enlarge on the doctrines of [Pyotr Simon] Pallas about the various races of dogs having come from several distinct wild species or sub-species.

Suggests organisms have a latent principle of improvement which is brought out by selection or breeding.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  22 Oct 1859
Classmark:  The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell collection Coll-203/A1/242: 15–24)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2508F

To J. D. Hooker   [23 October 1859]

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Congratulates JDH on finishing his introductory essay [to Flora Tasmaniae].

Lyell’s position on mutability appears more positive in his letters to JDH than in those to CD. Considers JDH a convert.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Joseph Dalton Hooker
Date:  [23 Oct 1859]
Classmark:  DAR 115: 24
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2509

To Charles Lyell   25 October [1859]

Summary

Discusses P. S. Pallas’ theory of origin of domestic dog breeds. CD believes domestic dogs descended from more than one aboriginal wild species but ultimately "we believe all canine species have descended from one parent and the only question is whether the whole or only part of difference in our domestic breeds has arisen since man domesticated them".

Races of man offer great difficulty. The doctrine of Pallas and Agassiz that there are several species "does not help us" in the least.

Hopes Henry Holland will not review Origin.

CD’s and CL’s difference on "principle of improvement" and "power of adaptation" is profound. Improvement in breeds of cattle requires neither. Urges him to reread first four chapters of Origin carefully. Natural selection is not to be contrasted with "improvement": every step involves improvement in relation to the conditions of life. There is no need for a "principle" to intervene.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Date:  25 Oct [1859]
Classmark:  American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.174)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2510

From Hugh Falconer   25 October and 12 November [1859]

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The antlers of 800 deer of the glacial period have been found in a cave. They show great variety of form, but gradation from one to the other can be traced when all are laid out. Suggests CD study changes that have taken place in the species since glacial period.

Has ordered the wicked book [Origin] CD has been so long a-hatching.

Author:  Hugh Falconer
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  25 Oct and 12 Nov 1859
Classmark:  DAR 47: 215–17
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2511

To J. D. Hooker   [27 October or 3 November 1859]

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More detailed comments on JDH’s introductory essay [to Flora Tasmaniae]. Remarks on struggle of vegetation are admirable.

JDH will receive Origin in about ten days.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Joseph Dalton Hooker
Date:  [27 Oct or 3 Nov] 1859
Classmark:  DAR 115: 25
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2512

From Charles Lyell   28 October 1859

Summary

Since dogs have same gestation period as the wolf it is likely that the wolf is the ancestral wild species, if it is just one species.

CD’s belief that domestic dogs are descended from several distinct aboriginal species seems to contradict views on sterility of hybrids and variation in Origin. If domestic varieties came from hybrids of wild species it will be impossible to trace ancestry. Opponents will exploit these problems.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  28 Oct 1859
Classmark:  The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell collection Coll-203/A3/4: 170–3)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2512A

To Charles Lyell   31 [October 1859]

Summary

Further discussion of origin of domestic dog breeds.

Effects of crossing separate races.

Comments on rate of artificial and natural selection.

The origin of pigeon breeds.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Date:  31 [Oct 1859]
Classmark:  American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.175)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2513

From Charles Lyell   4 October 1859

Summary

Response to Origin. Praise for summary of chapter 10 and chapter 11.

The dissimilarity of African and American species is ‘necessary result of “Creation” adapting new species to the pre-existing ones. Granting this unknown & if you please miraculous power acting’.

C. T. Gaudin writes of Oswald Heer’s finding many species common between Miocene floras of Iceland and Switzerland. Interesting for CD’s migration theory.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  4 Oct 1859
Classmark:  DAR 170: 81; The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Notebook 241, pp. 75–90)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-3132
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