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From W. F. Collier   22 February 1873

Woodtown, | Horrabridge, | S. Devon.

22 Feb. | 1873

Dear Sir

I have read with great interest your Expression of the Emotions, and as you refer often to children I venture to send you a pamphlet that I have published on punishments in education hoping to enlist your sympathy and support.1 I refer in it to the education of the character, as distinct from that of the intellect, and it seems the study of character, which is so highly interesting but so unsystematically pursued, ought to be combined with the study of the expression of the emotions. The diagnosis of a character is a very difficult thing to attain with any rapidity, and most of us are either mistaken in the expression of the emotions, or too much guided by them.

Will you allow me to point out a few instances in which I fancy I see a defect in your most instructive book. Adults, experienced in the world, generally learn to suppress the expression of the emotions, especially blushing; do you give sufficient weight to this fact in your argument?—2 You say that the dog must have learnt to bark, because the wild dog, or the wolf, does not bark. I have heard the bark of the fox often & often, it is a short bark almost exactly like that of some small dogs.3 The fox is a very silent animal, but at times he barks like a dog, and he whines a little like a dog when caressed if tame.— I think I remember your saying in your “Variations of Animals under domestication”, a book for which we shall all feel ourselves to be under the deepest obligation to you when we have fully taken it in, that the speed of race-horses has not increased since Eclipse.4 I have no books by me to refer to, but I think that Blinkbonnie’s Derby was the “fastest on record”; so also was Blair-Athol’s, which must therefore have been faster still; and so also was Gladiateur’s, which must again have been faster; showing a progressive increase in pace.5 I am not a racing Man, but I like to observe the pedigree or hereditary part of the business, and I think I have heard racing Men say that Eclipse in our time would have been a mere ‘plater’.6 Pray excuse my criticisms, especially if I have mistaken you.

I am | Dear Sir | very truly yours | W. F. Collier

C. Darwin Esq.

CD annotations

2.3 do … weight 2.4] double scored pencil
2.00 wild … obligation— 2.00] crossed pencil
2.00 I think] after opening square bracket pencil
2.00 have been faster still;] after cross pencil
Top of letter: ‘W. F. Collier’ pencil
Top of second sheet: ‘Selection’, ‘Feb. 22d/73/ | Fleetness of | Race | H’ pencil; ‘(Vol 2. p 242)’ blue crayon

Footnotes

Collier refers to Expression and to Punishments in education (Collier 1872).
In Expression, pp. 310–11, CD had argued that not only was blushing involuntary, but attempts to restrain it would actually increase the tendency.
In Expression, p. 86, CD had written that barking was not natural to any species of Canis except for C. latrans (the coyote). Red foxes belong to the genus Vulpes.
See Variation 2: 242.
Blink Bonny won the Derby in 1857, Blair Athol (her son) in 1864, and Gladiateur in 1865 (Horseracing history online (The National Horseracing Museum, Newmarket, www.horseracinghistory.co.uk; Thoroughbred heritage, www.tbheritage.com (accessed 14 November 2011)). Eclipse (born 1764) won at Epsom Downs at the age of 5 years and won seventeen later races, retiring to stud at the age of 6 (Vamplew and Kay 2005).
In horse-racing, a plater is a horse that competes in plate (i.e., minor) races, but can also refer more generally to an inferior racehorse (OED).

Bibliography

Collier, William Frederick. 1872. Punishments in education. London: Longmans, Green, and Co.

Expression: The expression of the emotions in man and animals. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1872.

OED: The Oxford English dictionary. Being a corrected re-issue with an introduction, supplement and bibliography of a new English dictionary. Edited by James A. H. Murray, et al. 12 vols. and supplement. Oxford: Clarendon Press. 1970. A supplement to the Oxford English dictionary. 4 vols. Edited by R. W. Burchfield. Oxford: Clarendon Press. 1972–86. The Oxford English dictionary. 2d edition. 20 vols. Prepared by J. A. Simpson and E. S. C. Weiner. Oxford: Clarendon Press. 1989. Oxford English dictionary additional series. 3 vols. Edited by John Simpson et al. Oxford: Clarendon Press. 1993–7.

Variation: The variation of animals and plants under domestication. By Charles Darwin. 2 vols. London: John Murray. 1868.

Summary

Sends pamphlet on punishment in education [Punishments in education, read at Social Science Congress, 1872] in response to Expression. Proposes that character can be diagnosed from expression.

Letter details

Letter no.
DCP-LETT-8782
From
Collier, W. F.
To
Charles Robert Darwin
Sent from
Horrabridge
Source of text
DAR 161: 210
Physical description
ALS 8pp †

Please cite as

Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 8782,” accessed on 19 April 2024, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-8782.xml

Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 21

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