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From P. H. Pye-Smith   21 December 1881

56, Harley Street. | W.

Dec 21. 81.

My dear Sir

I am much obliged by your valuable letter & the counsel it contains1

As to the Association you shall not be troubled more about the presidency   As soon as it is formed we shall be glad to include your name among the numbers.2

I am glad that you like Sir Jas. Paget’s article, tho’ the comment of a high official to whom I gave it in proof, was that it was very nicely written, but “not strong enough”3   What you say as to the uselessness of argument & the necessity of giving people “telling instances” is I have no doubt true. The difficulty is that tho’ there are striking instances of direct benefit, it is difficult if one is quite candid (& so good a cause should not be fended otherwise) not to weaken their effect by admitting, concomitant sources of information beside experiment, or only partial success in the remedial result. Moreover our arguments are impregnable to those who have brains to consider, whereas our facts, however accurately & cautiously stated, are impudently contradicted, or at least spoken of as exaggerated & ex parte assertions.4 In a paper which Sanderson & I drew up at the time the Bill was under discussion, & which was signed by Dr Sharpey & all the teachers of physiology in the 3 Kingdoms, we gave are your several “special cases”.5 Animal parasites, ovariotomy, antiseptic treatment, are valuable instances, for which I am much obliged. They have not been forgotten & I will take care they shall be trotted out again to as good advantage as possible.

In January the enemy is to make his reply.6 In February we shall have I hope a useful paper from the side of the Animals by Mr Fleming (head of the veterinary department at the War Office) another medical one from Dr A Clark & perhaps by Mr Lister or Mr Bowman.7

I am, my dear Sir, | Yours very sincerely | P H Pye-Smith.

Thank you kindly for your postscript.

Footnotes

CD’s letter has not been found, but see the letter from P. H. Pye-Smith, 19 December 1881.
See letter from P. H. Pye-Smith, 19 December 1881 and n. 7. The proposed Science Defence Association was to provide a defence fund for researchers charged under the 1876 Cruelty to Animals Act. CD had confirmed he would not be able to be president of the proposed association.
See letter from P. H. Pye-Smith, 19 December 1881 and n. 11. The article by James Paget was the first part of J. Paget et al. 1881.
Ex parte: from one side (Latin; the sense is partial or prejudiced (Chambers)).
John Scott Burdon Sanderson, William Sharpey, and others had drafted a bill allowing the practice of vivisection under certain conditions; CD had also played a leading role in drafting the bill. In the event, other parties brought forward alternative bills and in June 1875 Parliament decided to convene a Royal Commission to examine the matter. A bill was eventually passed in 1876, but the controversy continued. One of the key points of debate was whether vivisection experiments had any demonstrable medical benefit. For more on the debates, see Correspondence vol. 23, Appendix VI.
Pye-Smith refers to a forthcoming reply to Paget and other defenders of vivisection by Richard Holt Hutton, ‘The biologists on vivisection’, Nineteenth Century 11 (January 1882): 29–39.
George Fleming had been appointed inspecting veterinary surgeon at the War Office in 1879. Fleming’s 1866 essay on vivisection had been awarded first prize and published by the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (Fleming 1866). Andrew Clark, Joseph Lister, and William Bowman.

Bibliography

Chambers: The Chambers dictionary. Edinburgh: Chambers Harrap Publishers. 1998.

Fleming, George. 1866. Essay on vivisection. In Vivisection: is it necessary or justifiable?: being two prize essays published by the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. London: Robert Hardwicke.

Paget, James, et al. 1881. Vivisection: its pains and uses. [Three essays.] Nineteenth Century 10: 920–48.

Summary

Difficulty of using concrete instances of the benefit of vivisection in medical science.

Letter details

Letter no.
DCP-LETT-13572
From
Philip Henry Pye-Smith
To
Charles Robert Darwin
Sent from
London, Harley St, 56
Source of text
DAR 174: 83
Physical description
ALS 4pp

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Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 13572,” accessed on 25 April 2024, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-13572.xml

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