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Darwin Correspondence Project

To G. J. Romanes   13 December 1880

Leith Hill Place | Down, | Beckenham, Kent. | (Railway Station | Orpington. S.E.R.)

Dec. 13th 80

(return home tomorrow)

My dear Romanes

Your suggestion seems to me an excellent one, but we have no apparatus.1 I will, however, show your note to Frank.2 Certainly alternations of light & darkness at long intervals stimulates plants. Wd. it not be worth your while to try seedlings of Canary grass or cabbage?—3 The former wd be best.— A whole pot of seedlings cd be tried together. They are exqui⁠⟨⁠sitely⁠⟩⁠ sensitive to light. They migh⁠⟨⁠t⁠⟩⁠ be tried now, but possibly it might be a little better in early spring.—

We staid in London on ou⁠⟨⁠r⁠⟩⁠ road here for 3 days & I had hoped to see you, but I had to see other people, & by the afternoon was dead beaten each day.—4

I am delighted that my book has interested you.—5

I suppose that you have cases of dogs calling on each other & tempting one another to go out hunting by themselves.— There is a case here of pet dogs in 2 houseses about 12 mile apart, & their owners have agreed to shut up their dogs on alternate weeks, so that the 2 are never free at the same time for if they are, they will ⁠⟨⁠go⁠⟩⁠ hunting.—

My dear Romanes | Yours sincerely | Ch. Darwin

I hear that Mr S. Butler abuses me as ⁠⟨⁠a⁠⟩⁠ liar & scoundrel in his new book, but I ⁠⟨⁠do⁠⟩⁠ not intend to look at it—6

Footnotes

Francis Darwin had assisted CD with experimental work for Movement in plants.
Canary grass is Phalaris canariensis; cabbage is Brassica oleracea. CD and Francis had studied the light response of cotyledons of P. canariensis, and noted the localised sensitivity as well as differences in response-time and angle of inclination of seedlings grown in the dark compared with those grown in light (see Movement in plants, pp. 455–77).
The Darwins stayed in London from 7 to 11 December 1880 (CD’s ‘Journal’ (Appendix II)). On CD’s visitors while in London, see the letter to S. H. Haliburton, 13 December 1880 and n. 3.
Samuel Butler’s Unconscious memory contained a chapter titled ‘The manner in which Mr. Darwin met “Evolution, old and new”’ (Butler 1880, pp. 58–79); Butler accused CD and Ernst Krause of making unacknowledged use of Butler’s earlier work, Evolution, old and new (Butler 1879).

Bibliography

Butler, Samuel. 1879. Evolution, old and new: or, the theories of Buffon, Dr. Erasmus Darwin, and Lamarck, as compared with that of Mr. Charles Darwin. London: Hardwicke and Bogue.

Butler, Samuel. 1880. Unconscious memory: a comparison between the theory of Dr. Ewald Hering, … and the ‘Philosophy of the unconscious’ of Dr. Edward von Hartmann. London: David Bogue.

Movement in plants: The power of movement in plants. By Charles Darwin. Assisted by Francis Darwin. London: John Murray. 1880.

Summary

Discusses GJR’s idea of subjecting plants to brief flashes of light.

Hoped to see GJR in London, but was too tired.

Delighted his book Movement in plants has interested GJR.

Asks if GJR has example of dogs calling on each other to go hunting; there is a case half a mile away.

Has heard that Samuel Butler has abused him in his latest book, but he does not intend to look at it.

Letter details

Letter no.
DCP-LETT-12908F
From
Charles Robert Darwin
To
George John Romanes
Sent from
Leith Hill Place
Source of text
Bodleian Libraries, Oxford (MS. Eng. d. 3823, fols. 6–7)
Physical description
ALS 4pp

Please cite as

Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 12908F,” accessed on 25 April 2024, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-12908F.xml

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