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From Camille Dareste1   13 December [1869]2

Lille

13 décembre

Monsieur

Je vous suis bien reconnaissant de l’éclatant témoinage que vous avez bien voulu m’adresser sur mes travaux.3 Il a produit un grand effet, et vivement impressionné tout les personnes qui avaient à voter sur ma candidature:

Je regrette d’avoir à vous apprendre que ma candidature, bien qu’appuyée de votre nom, a echoué.4 Je suis arrivé aussi près que possible du bas; car j’ai eu, un très grand nombre de voix parmi les membres du Conseil acadèmique et de la faculté des Sciences qui dressaient leurs listes de présentation. Mais j’ai rencontré devant moi une hostilité qui s’est manifestée de la manière la plus enérgique; celle de Claude Bernard qui est aujourd’hui tout puissant même en dehors de la Science. Il n’admet pas que l’on puisse traiter la physiologie autrement qu’il ne la fait lui-même; c’est à dire en ne suivant pas la méthode des vivisections.5 Il m’a donc combattu en criant très haut et partout que je n’étais pas physiologiste. Sans lui, j’aurais très certainement réussi.

Je suis donc retourné à Lille, très froissé, mais non découragé; et j’ai repris la serié interrompue de mes travaux.6 J’ai tout lieu de croire, par les resultats de mes expériences de l’année, que j’arriverai prochainement au terme d’une série de recherches qui m’occupent depuis près de dix-huit ans. Peut-être, lorsque je publierai mon travail d’ensemble, pourrai-je trouver dans mon pays un accueil plus favourable que celui que j’ai rencontré jusqu’à présent.7 Du reste, si j’étais d’une façon quelconque, abattu par mon insuccès actuel, j’aurai, pour me relever, l’opinion d’un Savant comme vous; elle ne prouve que je n’ai point fait facille route; et qu’en cherchant à étudier par la méthode expérimentale, la production des monstrosités, je suis entré dans une carrière où je pourrai rendre de véritables services à la science de la vie, quoiqu’en dire Claude Bernard et son école si exclusive.

Veuillez recevoir, Monsieur, l’assurance de mon profond respect et de ma vive reconnaissance.| Camille Dareste

Footnotes

For a translation of this letter, see Correspondence vol. 17, Appendix I.
The year is established by the relationship between this letter and the letter to Camille Dareste, 20 November 1869.
On the position Dareste had been seeking, see the letter from Camille Dareste, 18 November [1869].
For Claude Bernard’s position in French science and philosophy, and for his promotion of vivisection, see DSB and Holmes 1974.
Dareste was a professor of zoology at the University of Lille (DBF).
For Dareste’s recent work on animal monstrosities, see Dareste 1862, 1863, and 1867. Dareste later published Recherches sur la production artificielle des monstruosités, ou essai de tératogénie expérimentale (Dareste 1877).

Bibliography

Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.

Dareste, Camille. 1877. Recherches sur la production artificielle des monstruosités, ou essai de tératogénie expérimentale. Paris: C. Reinwald.

DBF: Dictionnaire de biographie Française. Under the direction of J. Balteau et al. 21 vols. and 4 fascicules of vol. 22 (A–Leyris d’Esponchès) to date. Paris: Librairie Letouzey & Ané. 1933–.

DSB: Dictionary of scientific biography. Edited by Charles Coulston Gillispie and Frederic L. Holmes. 18 vols. including index and supplements. New York: Charles Scribner’s Sons. 1970–90.

Holmes, Frederic Lawrence. 1974. Claude Bernard and animal chemistry; the emergence of a scientist. Cambridge: Harvard University Press.

Translation

From Camille Dareste1   13 December [1869]2

Lille

13 December

Dear Sir,

I am very grateful to you for the brilliant recommendation that you kindly sent to me about my work.3 It produced a fine effect, and keenly impressed all those who voted for my candidature:

I regret to have to tell you that my candidature, although well-supported by your name, has failed.4 I came as close as possible to the bottom; for I had a great many votes among the members of the Conseil Académique and the Faculté des Sciences who drew up their presentation lists. But I faced a hostility that was manifested in the most energetic manner; that of Claude Bernard, who is nowadays all-powerful even outside science. He does not allow that physiology can be treated in any other way than he does himself, that is to say following the method of vivisections.5 Therefore he fought me by shouting very loudly and everywhere that I was not a physiologist. Without him, I would have very certainly succeeded.

I have since returned to Lille, very bruised but not discouraged; and I have resumed the interrupted course of my work.6 I have every reason to believe, from the results of my experiments this year, that I will soon reach the end of a course of research that has occupied me for nearly eighteen years. Perhaps, when I have published my work as a whole, I might find a more favourable reception in my country than that which I have encountered up to now.7 Besides, if I have been to some degree disheartened by my current lack of success, I have the opinion of a scholar like you to lift my spirits; it just proves that I did not take the easy road; and that in seeking to study the production of monstrosities by the experimental method, I entered a career where I could render real services to the life sciences, whatever Claude Bernard and his very exclusive school may say about it.

Please accept, dear Sir, the assurance of my profound respect and continuing regard. | Camille Dareste

Footnotes

For a transcription of this letter in its original French, see pp. 521–2.
The year is established by the relationship between this letter and the letter to Camille Dareste, 20 November 1869.
On the position Dareste had been seeking, see the letter from Camille Dareste, 18 November [1869].
For Claude Bernard’s position in French science and philosophy, and for his promotion of vivisection, see DSB and Holmes 1974.
Dareste was a professor of zoology at the University of Lille (DBF).
For Dareste’s recent work on animal monstrosities, see Dareste 1862, 1863, and 1867. Dareste later published Recherches sur la production artificielle des monstruosités, ou essai de tératogénie expérimentale (Dareste 1877).

Bibliography

Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.

Dareste, Camille. 1877. Recherches sur la production artificielle des monstruosités, ou essai de tératogénie expérimentale. Paris: C. Reinwald.

DBF: Dictionnaire de biographie Française. Under the direction of J. Balteau et al. 21 vols. and 4 fascicules of vol. 22 (A–Leyris d’Esponchès) to date. Paris: Librairie Letouzey & Ané. 1933–.

DSB: Dictionary of scientific biography. Edited by Charles Coulston Gillispie and Frederic L. Holmes. 18 vols. including index and supplements. New York: Charles Scribner’s Sons. 1970–90.

Holmes, Frederic Lawrence. 1974. Claude Bernard and animal chemistry; the emergence of a scientist. Cambridge: Harvard University Press.

Summary

CD’s letter on his behalf made a great impression, but his candidacy nevertheless failed, largely owing to the hostility of Claude Bernard. CD’s opinion sustains his belief that his work will be a service to science.

Letter details

Letter no.
DCP-LETT-7028
From
Gabriel-Madeleine-Camille (Camille) Dareste
To
Charles Robert Darwin
Sent from
Lille
Source of text
DAR 162: 46
Physical description
ALS 4pp

Please cite as

Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 7028,” accessed on 19 April 2024, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-7028.xml

Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 17

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