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To James Geikie   13 December 1880

Down. | Beckenham, Kent &c. [Leith Hill Place, Surrey.]

Dec 13th. 1880.

My dear Sir.

You must allow me the pleasure of thanking you for the great interest with which I have read your Prehistoric Europe1 Nothing has struck me more than the accumulated evidence of interglacial periods & assuredly the establishment of such periods is of paramount importance for understanding all the later changes on the earth’s surface.2 Reading your book has brought vividly before my mind the state of knowledge or rather ignorance, half a century ago, when all superficial matter was classed as Diluvium & not considered worthy of the attention of a Geologist.— If you can spare the time (though I ask out of mere idle curiosity) I should like to hear what you think of Mr. Mackintosh’s paper illustrated by a little map with lines showing the courses or sources of the erratic boulders over the midland counties of England.—3 It is a little suspicious their ending rather abruptly near Wolverhampton, yet I must think that they were transported by floating ice— Fifty years ago I knew Shropshire well, & cannot remember anything like till,—but abundance of gravel & sand beds with recent marine shells. A great boulder which I had undermined on the summit of Ashly Heath 7203 (?) ft above the sea rested on clean blocks of the underlying red sandstone.4 I was, also, greatly interested by your long discussion on the löss;5 but I do not feel satisfied that all has been made out about it— I saw much brick earth near Southampton in some manner connected with the angular gravel, but had not strength enough to make out relations— It might be worth your while to bear in mind the possibility of fine sediment washed over & interstratified with thick beds of frozen snow, & therefore ultimately dropped irrespective of the present contour of the country.

I remember as a boy—that it was said that the floods of the Severn were more muddy when the floods were caused by melting snow, than from the heaviest rains; but why this should be so I cannot see.

Note. (I have run short of paper & am away from home).6

Another subject has interested me much. viz. the sliding & travelling of angular debris   Ever since seeing the “Streams of Stones at the Falkland Islands—I have felt uneasy in my mind on this subject— I wish Mr Kerr’s notion could be fully elucidated about frozen snow.7 Some one ought to observe the movements of the fields of snow which supply the glaciers in Switzerland.

Yours is a grand book, & I thank you heartily for the instruction & pleasure which it has given me.—

Pray believe me. | My dear Sir. | Yours sincerely— | Ch. Darwin

For Heavens sake forgive the untidiness of this whole note.—

Footnotes

Geikie had sent CD a copy of Prehistoric Europe: a geological sketch (Geikie 1881; see letter to James Geikie, 27 November 1880).
Geikie devoted two chapters of his work to a discussion of the evidence of interglacial epochs, or periods of warmer climate interspersed with colder periods during the Ice Age (see Geikie 1881, pp. 252–330).
Daniel Mackintosh had published the results of a survey on drift-deposits of the erratic blocks of England and Wales (Mackintosh 1879).
CD had written about the boulder in 1842 in his ‘Ancient glaciers of Caernarvonshire’, p. 186 n. Ashley Heath is in Staffordshire. CD’s note on the boulder, made in June 1846 when he was visiting relatives at Maer, is in DAR 5: B31–2. See also Correspondence vol. 27, letter to Daniel Mackintosh, 9 October 1879; Mackintosh had mentioned the boulder in Mackintosh 1879, p. 442.
See Geikie 1881, pp. 143–68; löss or loess is a sedimentary deposit of silty or loamy material.
This phrase is written in the margin of the copy, at a point where the copyist notes the paper changed. CD was writing from Leith Hill Place, Surrey, the home of his sister Caroline Sarah Wedgwood. The Darwins returned home on 15 December (CD’s ‘Journal’ (Appendix II)).
CD discussed the gravel found on the Falkland Islands in South America, p. 21; he suggested that its occurrence might be the result of ice action. In Geikie 1881, p. 229, Geikie had referred to Washington Caruthers Kerr’s Report to the Geological Survey of North Carolina (Kerr 1875, p. 156); Kerr argued that successive freezing and thawing contributed to the downward movement of gravels, resulting in deposits similar to those caused by glacial drift.

Bibliography

‘Ancient glaciers of Caernarvonshire’: Notes on the effects produced by the ancient glaciers of Caernarvonshire, and on the boulders transported by floating ice. By Charles Darwin. Philosophical Magazine 3d ser. 21 (1842): 180–8. [Shorter publications, pp. 140–7.]

Geikie, James. 1881. Prehistoric Europe: a geological sketch. London: Edward Stanford.

Kerr, Washington Caruthers. 1875. Physical geography, resumé, economic geology. Vol. 1 of Report of the Geological Survey of North Carolina. Raleigh: Josiah Turner.

Mackintosh, Daniel. 1879. Results of a systematic survey, in 1878, of the directions and limits of dispersion, mode of occurrence, and relation to drift-deposits of the erratic blocks or boulders of the West of England and east of Wales, including a revision of many years’ previous observations. [Read 26 March 1879.] Quarterly Journal of the Geological Society of London 35: 425–55.

South America: Geological observations on South America. Being the third part of the geology of the voyage of the Beagle, under the command of Capt. FitzRoy RN, during the years 1832 to 1836. By Charles Darwin. London: Smith, Elder & Co. 1846.

Summary

Comments on Prehistoric Europe.

Asks JG’s opinion of Daniel Mackintosh’s paper ["Results of a systematic survey of erratic blocks", Q. J. Geol. Soc. Lond. 35 (1879): 425–53].

Comments on loess.

Feels uneasy about streams of stone of Falkland Islands.

Letter details

Letter no.
DCP-LETT-12909
From
Charles Robert Darwin
To
James Murdoch (James) Geikie
Sent from
Leith Hill Place Down letterhead
Source of text
DAR 144: 334
Physical description
C 3pp

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